Proposition 8 Protestors Getting Out of Control

November 18, 2008

This video is via hotair. Stories and videos like this have been coming out since election day and rather than dying down, they have only been escalating.  It’s as if all these angry liberals who wanted to vent at a McCain victory needed to put their hopechange frustration elsewhere. Michelle has a description of what happened:

After just singing and worshiping God for a while, Roger decided that we should all hold hands in a circle and continue singing. So we did.

Someone (Actually a person who came up and hugged and kissed some of us who he knew from the past) convinced some people that we were there to protest against the no on 8 campaign.

Then some guy who was dressed up like one of the sisters (The sisters of perpetual indulgence is a group of men who dress up like nuns and call themselves the spiritual authority of the Castro.) took a curtain-type thing (Which I think they use to curse people) and wrapped it around us.

Then a crowd started gathering. We began to sing “Amazing Grace”, and basically sang that song the whole night. (At some points we also sang “Nothing but the Blood of Jesus” and “Oh the Blood of Jesus”.) At first, they just shouted at us, using crude, rude, and foul language and calling us names like “haters” and “bigots”. Since it was a long night, I can’t even begin to remember all of the things that were shouted and/or chanted at us. Then, they started throwing hot coffee, soda and alcohol on us and spitting (and maybe even peeing) on us. Then, a group of guys surrounded us with whistles, and blasted them inches away from our ears continually. Then, they started getting violent and started shoving us. At one point a man tried to steal one of our Bibles. Chrisdene noticed, so she walked up to him and said “Hey, that’s not yours, can you please give it back?”. He responded by hitting her on the head with the Bible, shoving her to the ground, and kicking her. I called the cops, and when they got there, they pulled her out of the circle and asked her if she wanted to press charges. She said “No, tell him I forgive him.”

Afterwards, she didn’t rejoin us in the circle, but she made friends with one of the people in the crowd, and really connected heart to heart. Roger got death threats. As the leader of our group, people looked him in the eyes and said “I am going to kill you.”, and they were serious. A cop heard one of them, and confronted him. (This part is kinda graphic, so you should skip the paragraph if you don’t want to be offended.) It wasn’t long before the violence turned to perversion. They were touching and grabbing me, and trying to shove things in my butt, and even trying to take off my pants – basically trying to molest me. I used one hand to hold my pants up, while I used the other arm to hold one of the girls. The guys huddled around all the girls, and protected them.

The LA Times has discussed the issue going to the Supreme Court and getting decided by one man pretty much, Justice Anthony Kennedy. If such a thing were to happen, it would be the ultimate testament to overturning Marbury v. Madison (no, not all of us advocate that). The will of one man would override the majority of voters of the state of California who amended their Constitution.

To touch briefly on the subject itself, I (Yossarian, speaking for himself and no others on this site) don’t have strong feelings either way towards giving same sex couples visitation and inheritance rights beyond joint tenancy. What I do care about is keeping this as a state issue and not making it federal by amending the US Constitution or having a federal court make national law on the issue. We can cross that “full faith and credit” bridge when we get there. The best way to win over an idea is to change hearts and change minds. You can’t win concensus through fear by sending white powder to Mormon churches or attacking old ladies. I seriously doubt that Californians want this made into a law borne out of violent coercion.

Some ardent prosecutor can make a good political case for himself or herself out in Cali by getting on these protestors

Michelle has more on the escalating violence here, here, here and here.



  1. Some of us will respond this way:

    The National Equality Tax Protest – Wednesday, April 15th, 2009.

    Finally, individuals are gathering to TAKE A STAND against persecution from the Mormons & the Christian “Right”. No vote will be needed on this one.


    Americans who DO NOT wish to engage in civil disobedience may protest outside of their local post office. The message is “WE CONTRIBUTE TO AMERICA; WE DESERVE THE SAME”.

    Those who DO wish to engage in civil disobedience may stand there withholding their tax forms. The message is “WE USED TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT NOW WE DEMAND YOU TREAT EVERYONE EQUALLY!”

    Organizations alone will NOT earn our civil rights; if they could we would be equal by now; organizations by nature have baggage, bureaucracy,
    personalities (egos) and many limitations.

    INDIVIDUALS also need to push this forward (as they have in the past).

  2. And I guess it never crossed their minds why Cali is in a drought? God withholding the rain from a people is well documented in the Bible. And could the fires be more of the same? I guess they won’t get a clue until the big one hits and Cali slides off into the sea.

  3. I wonder if No had been the verdict on 8…would we crazy religious folks act like that? I think not. We understand the voice of the people and “obey the laws of the land”…But are we valiant enough to boycott the idiot movies of these “stars” who know so much and call us names? No…we just need to be entertained.

    We need to find a way to make our voices heard. Obviously the voting booth is not the way. Sad day in America!

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